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Clifford Ellsworth Rappe


Father: Franklin Ellsworth Rappe
Mother: Grace H. Haines
Birth: 3 AUG 1916 Silverton,Marion Co.,Oregon
Death: 17 JUN 1993 IndianRock Ranch,Oroville,Butte Co.,California
Burial: 23 JUN 1993 Belle Passi Cem.,Woodburn,Marion Co.,Oregon

m: Lucille Antionette Mortensen (14 MAR 1921-5 OCT 1976)

on 3 AUG 1939 at Vancouver,Clark Co.,Washington

Children:

  • Linda Lucille Rappe (24 MAR 1943-) m(1). Leon Dale Chrisman (31 OCT 1939-) on 16 JUN 1962 at Methodist Church,Woodburn,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. Lonnie Dale Chrisman (10 AUG 1965-), 2. Lucinda Leanne Chrisman (24 MAY 1973-).m(2). Jack Edward Chambers (3 MAY 1933-) on 31 DEC 1988 at Oroville,Butte Co.,California
  • Craig Norman Rappe (2 JUL 1952-) m. Debbie Rice (10 SEP 1952-) on 14 SEP 1973 at Woodburn,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. Aislynn Beth Rapp‚e (1 OCT 1975-), 2. Trent Rapp‚e (17 AUG 1977-), 3. Jessica Rapp‚e (12 DEC 1980-), 4. Carrie Joann Rapp‚e (2 DEC 1983-).
    Notes:
    When he was a child, his family moved from place to place around Oregon as work was availabl e for his father. He lived for a while in Silverton as his father worked at the lumber mill there, later in Klamath Falls for a while, at times in tents when his father took on temporary logging jobs, and in a number of cites around Oregon. By the time he was in eighth grade, he had attended ten different schools in Oregon. He described his childhood as very unhappy.

    Most of the time, his family lived in town. As a boy, he took on various odd jobs such as selling papers and delivering moonshine for the bootleggers. He said the police officers in that day carried billy clubs, and when as the kids were delivering buckets of pure distilled alcohol, the police would sometimes question them about what they had in the buckets. The bootleggers told them to say "moonshine", which they did, and the police would look inside, stir their billy clubs around inside it, and say "yeah right". The alcohol had not been colored yet, and looked rather like water. It wasn't clear whether the police didn't believe them, or if they were in cahoots with the bootleggers, but it was probably the former.

    Cliff and Norman got into their share of trouble making as well. In those days, an ice man would come by each day selling ice for the icebox. The kids figured out that they could go down to the ice house and collect chips of ice that were laying around, but they eventually found they could just steal entire blocks of ice just as easily.

    One time, Cliff and a group of friends found a big barrell of gasoline sitting in the back of a factory in town. One of the boys suggested they set it on fire, just out of pure mischief, and they did so, causing an explosion as they successfully ran for cover. Nobody was hurt, but it was probably one of the more extreme pranks he got involved in.

    As a kid, Cliff used to sell papers. He would often enter a saloon shouting "extra extra, read all about it", and someone inside would ask him how many papers he had left and buy the rest from him and tell him "now, shut up and get lost". There was one particular shop owner near the end of his route that would almost always buy whatever he had left from him at the end of the day. One day, after selling his remaining papers, as he grabbed a candy bar from the shelf the shop owner was peeking at him from a peekhole in the back of the store. Cliff didn't know why he grabbed it, but he felt real bad after he got caught, especially since the shop owner had helped him out so much.
    Seven days before he died, while describing his childhood and the above stories to his grandson Lonnie Chrisman (the author of this biography), he described him and Norm as "slick crooks". Then, after thinking for a moment, he looked up and said, "you know, us kids then were sure worse than they are today!" Seeing that this was exactly the opposite of what we always hear old people say, it was amazingly hilarious and everyone present broke out laughing.

    Cliff and Norman were extremely close as brothers. They did almost everything together, school, work, and even the mischief. When Norman died of appendicitis just after graduating from the eighth grade, Cliff really took it hard. It is not clear that he ever recovered from it.

    Cliff attended school only through the eighth grade. From that point, he worked, mostly along side his father, taking jobs including falling timber, removing stumps, picking fruits, and other short jobs. One spring he worked for $.15 per hour, the next hear for $.20, then $.25, and then $.30.

    As a young adult, he took a liking to Boxing. He boxed for a while himself, as did Norman, and they had big plans to pursue boxing together as a career. With Norman's death, these plans were shattered, but he continued to follow the professional sport intimately throughout his adult life.
    He always had gloves, punching bags, and boxing photos plastered around the house. It was one of his pleasures.

    Soon after getting married, he entered World War II in the Navy. He was trained in Minnesota, and his family came out from Oregon to visit him while he was there. He then entered the Pacific Fleet and saw more combat then anyone should have to endure. He fought in ground combat in many famous battles, and experienced the horrors of war to its full extent. During the war, he went through two typhoons at sea, which he described as extremely horrifying. He fought in several battles where close to one-half of his own troops were killed in action. And he fought at the what was probably the most famous battle of World War II, the battle of Iwo Jima in 1945.

    At Iwo Jima, he was on an amphibious landing boat, a small barge-like boat that probably held less than 20 people. They landed at the shore just in front of Mt. Suribachi, and in the first half mile between the shore and Mt. Suribachi (an area now occupied by a military cemetery) his party alone lost between 50 and 60 men. The battle was one of the bloodiest in the war with over 20,000 U.S. casualties. Less than 300 Japanese, all taken prisoner, remained of the original 30,000 or so that were dug into the caves on the island. The battle was immortalized by the famous picture of four men raising the flag on Mt. Suribachi. In fact, he was right there, along with a fairly small group of men, when the picture was taken. The now famous photographer was somewhat nervous about the whole event, so Cliff broke the end off a bottle of Saki, held it about his head, and poured it down the photographer's throat. They didn't realize at the time that this photo would become the famous photo seen everywhere to represent the courage of those who fought in the war.

    He said the actual event was very casual, and who was actually in the picture wasn't prearranged. They sat around for a while asking "who wants to be in the picture", and the men present passed the buck awhile saying "I don't care, you do it". Had he wanted to, he could have probably been in the picture, but of course at that time no one had any idea how significant that picture would be. He did not get in the picture, but he stood there and watched the picture taken.

    World War II was clearly the most significant event in Cliff's life. It stayed with him daily until the day he died, 48 years after it was over. His life was plagued by deep depression, mental breakdowns, and other mental illness. He almost surely suffered from what is now called Post Tramatic Stress Disorder, but was never really treated for that after the war since it was not recognized as a disorder at that time and because they didn't become very evident until his fifties or so.

    Despite his mental and emotional problems, he and his wife Lucille did manage to do quite well. After the war he started his own business fixing car radios and eventually the business grew into a record selling franchise under RCA, Columbia, and others. In addition, he began doing repairs on home radios and did housecalls. When the television finally reached Oregon, he became interested in it and expanded into black and white television repair.
    He did very well, and they achieved a very comfortable financial security. In this day he was very interested in all the new electronic devices that were starting to appear, and was the first in town to own a television, phonographic wire-recorder, perhaps the first to own a movie camera, and so on.

    While the kids were growing up, the family was very close with the grandparents. This tightness was amplified by the fact that both Cliff and his sister married Mortensen cousins, so nearly every outing, family event, or holiday saw a Mortensen/Rappe family reunion.

    Sometime in the 1950's, Cliff and Lucille decided to build a new house for themselves. Together, they constructed the house that now stands at 1050 S. Pacific Highway, exactly 1 mile south of the Woodburn town limits. They also built him a shop along side the highway in the front yard where he ran his television repair business.

    Also in the 1960's, they built a house on the south edge of Woodburn which they rented out. They also made a large profit on the sale of two of their homes. These investments considerably added to their financial security.

    While business prospered, with the 1960's came the popularization of the color television. Since he had not received any former training, and had only an eighth grade education, he found his skills being surpassed by the advancement of technology. This appears to have been a major source of stress for him, for he experienced his first complete mental breakdown in the late 1960's. One day something just suddenly snapped, and he went crazy. They hauled him into a mental hospital in Roseburg, Oregon, and had a heck of a time restraining him. Having been a boxer when he was younger, he was very strong and it took eight doctors to hold him down. He was diagnosed with Schizophrenia and spent a full year at the hospital at Roseburg. Technology finally passed him, and he had to retire from his business a few years later. By that time, however, they had acquired enough money to live off interest and pension payments quite comfortably.

    In early 1974, just after her mother had died from Cancer, his wife Lucille was diagnosed with Liver cancer. His father Frank, who was then living with them at home, voluntarily asked to be placed in a rest home in order to "be with his wife", but really it was to avoid being a burden during the coming hard times. Three awful years ensued, filled with sickness and suffering from the cancer, until finally in 1976 she lost the battle.

    He began drinking heavily and became an alcoholic. Several years in the 1980's were dominated by this illness. It lead to another mental breakdown, in which he spent more time in the hospital at Roseburg. He finally joined Alcoholics Anonymous and succeeded in stopping drinking, which was a very positive achievement.

    He never remarried after Lucille died. He did have a few female friends, the most notable being Vi Weber, who lived with him a while, and who he took sightseeing to every county in Oregon. However, as they were getting old, she decided that she should spend her old age with her family in New York state, and left. They remained good friends.

    His mental illness problems continued, this time with severe depression. He tried a wide variety of drugs, but was never able to find anything that worked. At one point he became addicted to one of the drugs, Xanex, and in January 1993 admited himself to a detox center and kicked the habit. By this time it was becoming clear that he had reached the spot where he could no longer be safe caring for himself living alone at home. His doctor said, however, that he would probably be okay if he lived next door to a relative, so his daughter helped him sell his home and move everything to her Ranch in Oroville, California. His depression continued, and he seldom got out of bed during this time. Finally, on Thursday, June 17, 1993, he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. His son-in-law, Jack Chambers, heard the shot and ran into his trailer, where he found him on the bed. He died a few minutes later in a helicopter in route to the hospital in Chico.

    The above biography was written by Lonnie Dale Chrisman on June 17, 1993. Most of the childhood stories came from an interview with on June 10, 1993 while Lonnie was visiting him in Oroville.


    Lucille Antionette Mortensen


    Father: Jens Jorgen Mortensen
    Mother: Antionette Bartlett "Nettie" Reed
    Birth: 14 MAR 1921 Hancock,Stevens Co.,Minnesota
    Death: 5 OCT 1976 Silverton,Marion Co.,Oregon
    Burial: 8 OCT 1976 Belle Passi Cem.,Woodburn,Marion Co.,Oregon

    m: Clifford Ellsworth Rappe (3 AUG 1916-17 JUN 1993)

    on 3 AUG 1939 at Vancouver,Clark Co.,Washington

    Children:

  • Linda Lucille Rappe (24 MAR 1943-) m(1). Leon Dale Chrisman (31 OCT 1939-) on 16 JUN 1962 at Methodist Church,Woodburn,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. Lonnie Dale Chrisman (10 AUG 1965-), 2. Lucinda Leanne Chrisman (24 MAY 1973-).m(2). Jack Edward Chambers (3 MAY 1933-) on 31 DEC 1988 at Oroville,Butte Co.,California
  • Craig Norman Rappe (2 JUL 1952-) m. Debbie Rice (10 SEP 1952-) on 14 SEP 1973 at Woodburn,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. Aislynn Beth Rapp‚e (1 OCT 1975-), 2. Trent Rapp‚e (17 AUG 1977-), 3. Jessica Rapp‚e (12 DEC 1980-), 4. Carrie Joann Rapp‚e (2 DEC 1983-).
    Notes:
    Died of Cancer of the Liver.

    The births of both her children were by Cessarian section due to complications during delivery. She began the delivery of Linda in the Woodburn Hospital, but the umbilical cord became entagled around the baby's neck, causing a life threatening condition to both of them. They were rushed to the hospital in Salem, where Linda was delivered by Cessarian section. The Dr. in Woodburn was Dr. Gerald Smith. The Dr. who performed the C-section was ?. After the birth, Lucille got an infection and complications and had a very bad fever for 20 hours. Her second child, Craig, was also delivered by C-Section with complications.

    !Birth-Death-Burial: Funderal Program, in possession of Linda Rappe Chambers, copy in possession of Lonnie Chrisman. Reads: "In Memory of Lucille A. Rappe; BORN March 14, 1921 Hancock, Minnesota; PASSED AWAY October 5, 1976 Silverton Oregon; FUNERAL SERVICES: October 8, 1976 Simon Woodburn Chapel, Woodburn Oregon; OFFICIATING: Paster Al Rice, Mrs. Jon Gray, Organist; PALLBEARERS: Eldon Sanders, Lester Barrett, William Strubhar, Amos Brusven, Herbert Hull, Gerald Harvey; INTERMENT: Belle Passi Cemeter, Woodburn, Oregon".

    !SSDI: Lucille Rappe, b. 14 Mar 1921, d. Oct 1976 res Woodburn, Marion Co., OR 97071, SSN 541-16-0923 (OR)

    Obituary Notices from local papers:
    "Lucille A. Rappe. WOODBURN -- Lucille A. Rappe, 55, of 1050 S. Pacific Highway, died Tuesday in a Silverton hospital following a long illness.
    A native of Hancock, Minn., she lived inthe Hubbard and Woodburn areas much of her life. She was a clerk at MacLaren School for Boys prior to her illness and a member of Woodburn Christian Church.
    Surviving are widower, Clifford; father, J.J. Mortensen, Hubbard; daugher Linda Chrisman, Santa Clara, Calif.; son Craig, Klamath Falls; brothers Odell Mortensen, Hubbard, and Harold Mortensen, Clackamas; and three grandchildren.
    Services will be at 2 p.m. Friday in Simon mortuary. Interment will be in Belle Passi Cemetery." (This same notice appeared in three local papers).


    John Chrisman


    Father: John Chrisman
    Mother: Maria Magdalena "Mary" [---]
    Birth: 1770/1774 near,Pipe Creek,Westminster,Maryland
    Death: AFT 1850 probably,Bath Co.,Kentucky

    m: Elizabeth Withers (1780/1784-BEF 20 APR 1849)

    on 3 SEP 1805 at German Reform Ch,Frederick,Frederick Co.,Maryland

    Children:

  • Mary Withers Chrisman (1807-AFT 1880) m. John Cunningham (8 AUG 1807-25 JUN 1868) on 22 APR 1830 at Union Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Elizabeth Susan "Lizzie" Cunningham (5 MAR 1831-9 FEB 1911), 2. William Marion Cunningham (1832/1833-MAR 1922), 3. Ann Eliza Cunningham (1834/1835-), 4. Cynthia Ann Cunningham (1836/1837-27 APR 1870), 5. John R. (W.) Cunningham (1838/1839-AFT 1870), 6. Mary G. or C. Cunningham (1841-1875), 7. James C. Cunningham (SEP 1843-), 8. Charles Franklin Cunningham (4 DEC 1847-21 SEP 1912), 9. Lucy Ann "Miranda" Cunningham (AUG 1849-).
  • Catherine Chrisman (1807/1808-ABT 1854) m. William Nicely (1807/1808-) at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. John M. Nicely (1832/1833-), 2. George W. Nicely (24 JAN 1834-11 JAN 1882), 3. Martha J. Knicely (1834/1835-), 4. William F. Knicely (1836/1837-), 5. Mary V. Knicely (1838/1839-), 6. Albert Knicely (1842/1843-), 7. Sarah K. or C. Knicely (1848/1849-).
  • Sarah Chrisman (1808/1809-) m. William Coddington (8 SEP 1806-AFT 1874) on 10 NOV 1833 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Maria Coddington (1834/1835-6 OCT 1901), 2. Mary H. Coddington (1835-), 3. Lydia Coddington (1837/1838-), 4. Amy E. Coddington (1 APR 1840-15 JAN 1915), 5. Harriett Coddington (1839-), 6. Moses Coddington (19 MAR 1841-10 MAY 1898), 7. John Coddington (1842-), 8. William T. Coddington (1843/1844-1914), 9. Ester E. Coddington (1846/1847-), 10. Emma E. Coddington (1847/1848-), 11. Charles Coddington (ABT NOV 1849-).
  • William Withers Chrisman (9 SEP 1810-) m. Ava Chenault (12 OCT 1809-27 MAR 1861) on 14 JUL 1831 at Union Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Elizabeth Ann Chrisman (17 FEB 1834-6 JAN 1915), 2. Abner Chenault Chrisman (14 JAN 1836-27 SEP 1926), 3. John Chrisman (14 JAN 1836-ABT 1836), 4. Daniel Trimbel Chrisman (26 DEC 1838-30 JUL 1891), 5. Samuel Larkin Chrisman (30 JAN 1840-1 JUL 1915), 6. William S. Chrisman (26 APR 1842-), 7. Margaret Mary Jane Chrisman (24 DEC 1843-19 JAN 1911), 8. Charles Francis Chrisman (14 JAN 1846-1848), 9. George Withers Chrisman (6 SEP 1847-ABT 1848), 10. James Monroe Chrisman (25 OCT 1849-27 JAN 1862).
  • John Chrisman (10 MAY 1812-11 DEC 1855) m. Rebecca Crouch (26 JUN 1812-30 JAN 1896) on 12 FEB 1837 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. James Chrisman (1837-), 2. John Russell Chrisman (21 MAR 1841-24 MAR 1922), 3. George W. Chrisman (14 MAR 1843-8 SEP 1927), 4. William Barton Chrisman (1845-AFT 17 JAN 1920), 5. Harriett Chrisman (1847/1848-), 6. Hannah Pauline Chrisman (17 JAN 1854-28 AUG 1926).
  • Rebecca Chrisman
  • Elizabeth Chrisman (1817/1818-AFT 1880) m. Barton W. Miller (ABT 1810/1811-) on 6 MAY 1838 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Sarah A. Miller (1852/1853-AFT 1880), 2. Nancy Miller (1844/1845-).
  • Esther Chrisman m. Abner Haydon on 4 JUL 1839 at Boone Co.,Indiana
  • Ann Maria (Meriah) Chrisman (5 MAR 1822-10 FEB 1865) m. Caleb Davis (27 SEP 1820-21 JAN 1890) on 20 MAR 1842 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. James F. Davis (22 DEC 1842-13 JAN 1905), 2. Barton W. Davis (3 FEB 1844-), 3. John Chrisman Davis (17 JUL 1845-30 JAN 1923), 4. William E. Davis (7 DEC 1846-25 MAR 1920), 5. George Cass Davis (9 AUG 1849-7 JUN 1915), 6. Oliver Marion Davis (27 NOV 1851-), 7. Jasper P. Davis (11 OCT 1852/1853-), 8. Charles Albert Davis (6 NOV 1855-23 DEC 1944), 9. Mary Catherine Davis (3 NOV 1858-21 MAR 1908), 10. Elizabeth Harriet Davis (2 JAN 1861-21 MAR 1908), 11. Leander Jefferson Davis (7 SEP 1862-28 FEB 1934).
  • Frances Virginia "Jenny" Chrisman (14 DEC 1825-19 DEC 1877) m. Samuel Porter (12 MAY 1819-29 DEC 1909) on 12 FEB 1843 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Catharine Elizabeth Porter (27 JAN 1844-16 AUG 1903), 2. Mary Ellen Porter (25 DEC 1845-17 AUG 1904), 3. Harriet H. Porter (1848-1880), 4. Oliver W. Porter (OCT 1851-17 APR 1927), 5. John Mark Porter (NOV 1853-1930), 6. Emaline Jane Porter (22 DEC 1855-1938), 7. Thomas W. Porter (MAR 1858-), 8. Maria A. Porter (19 MAR 1860-17 APR 1887), 9. Arthur William Porter (25 JAN 1862-25 DEC 1916), 10. Virginia F. "Jenny" Porter (17 APR 1864-22 MAY 1911), 11. Augusta A. Porter (10 AUG 1866-3 DEC 1869), 12. Frank Lee Porter (MAR 1868-1938).
  • Charles F. Chrisman (13 MAY 1830-5 OCT 1887) m(1). Hannah Crouch (29 NOV 1829-30 JUN 1884) on 29 APR 1852 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Mary J. Chrisman (20 APR 1853-25 OCT 1853), 2. Horace A. Chrisman (6 OCT 1854-16 MAY 1932), 3. Charles F. Chrisman (JUL 1855-14 AUG 1860), 4. Sarah E. Chrisman (2 FEB 1858-4 AUG 1862), 5. Isaac Chrisman (30 NOV 1859-8 FEB 1866), 6. Charles F. Chrisman (ABT 1861-AFT 1920), 7. Anna Lee Chrisman (5 SEP 1863-1 FEB 1874), 8. John F. or R. Chrisman (1865-), 9. William Chrisman (27 DEC 1867-8 MAR 1872), 10. Armilda Chrisman (14 FEB 1870-12 FEB 1872).m(2). Alice D. Yates (1862-NOV 1942) on 5 MAY 1885 at Platte Co.,Missouri, children: 1. Harry Lee Chrisman (6 APR 1886-18 MAR 1892), 2. Aggy Chrisman (1887/1888-).
    Notes:
    "A Native of Maryland"
    No birth or baptism record exists.

    1796: Sullivan Co., Tennessee Tax Records: "John Chrisman Jr." appears.
    He would be at least 21 to be on this list [thus b. bef. 1775]. Two John Chrismans listed. The first has only "1 white poll" (usually a wife), the 2nd has 226 acres, no "polls" (i.e., no other adults or slaves). ["Sullivan County, Tennessee Tax Lists 1796" in "Early East Tennessee Taxpayers", compiled by Polly Anna Creekmore, LOC#79-57154, Southern Hist. Press, 1980, pg.153-159, with John's entry on pg. 154]. The first is probably John Jr., the second John Sr.

    His location from 1797-1801 is still unknown. Perhaps this is the time period when he was engaged in cotton trade between New Orleans and Norfolk.

    1802: He is a witness to a deed from Henry Wilson to George Chrisman (his brother) in Fauquier Co., Virginia. [Deed Book 15, pg. 262].

    Note: A John Chrisman appears in 1803, 1805 and 1807 in Washington Co., Virginia with 200 acres. Although we assume this to be his father, there is always a slight possibility it is him.

    Fauquier Co., Tax Lists:
    1803, Mar 23: John Chrisman, 1 tithe, 1 horse. George Chrisman was enumerated on the same day by the same pollster indicating close proximity.
    1804: John Chrisman
    1805: No Chrismans listed, but list 'C' missing.
    1806: John Chrisman, 1 tithe, 2 horses (one horse for wife?) He does not appear on lists for 1800,1801,1802, or 1807 and after.

    When married in 1805, both him and wife Elizabeth Withers were residents of Fauquier Co., Virginia. They were married across the border in Frederick Maryland, but continued residing in Fauquier Co., Va for at least another year.

    Marriage: German Reformed Church Records, Frederick City, Maryland. In [Brumbaugh]

    He moved to Mason County, [West] Virginia about 1807 and until after 1826. He then moved to Boone Co., Indiana by 1830, and finally to Bath County, Kentucky where he supposedly died, probably around 1850. No birth or death record has been located.
    [Note: move to Mason Co. was after July 7, 1806, but before 1807 tax list in Fauquier Co.]

    Book 1, pg.430, West Virginia Land Grants, "John Crisman, 70 acres, 18 Mi.Cr., 1826".

    On July 7, 1806, Paul Henkel began a trip that took him through Point Pleasant, and he noted a list of families there at that time.
    [National Genealogy Society Quarterly, Vol. 27, No. 1, March 1939, pg. 60-3]. There is no sign of John Chrisman. This suggests that John's move occurred after this date.

    !Census 1810: Mason Co., Virginia: "John Crisman" Males: 1 26-45 [self], one under 10 [William], Females: 1 26/45 [wife Elizabeth], 3 under 10 [Mary, Sarah, ?]. [Deduce: enumerated after Sep 9, 1810]

    !Census 1820: Mason Co., Virginia: "John Crisman" Males: 1 over 45 [self], 1 10-16 [William], 1 under 10 [John], Females: 1 26-45 [wife Elizabeth], 3 10-16 [Mary, ?Sarah, ?], 2 under 10. [Deduce: Taken after Sep 9, 1820]

    (Note: No John Chrisman appears in the 1825 State Census of Indiana.
    Indication that he is still residing in Mason Co., [W]Va at that time.

    1826: John Chrisman received a land grant of 70 acres at 18 Mile Creek in Mason County, Virginia, recorded in the Virginia Land Grants.

    !Census 1830: Union Co., Indiana, page 490-246: "John Crisman", Males: 1 under 5 [Charles], 3 15-20 [William, John, ?]; 1 50-60 [self]; Females: 2 under 5 [Jenny, ?], 1 5-10; 1 10-15; 1 15-20; 2 20-30 [Mary, ?Sarah], 1 40-50 [wife Elizabeth]. [Items in brackets are my guesses. note: All daughters accounted for, but since ages are not known, correspondence beyond what is shown is not known. Is one son unaccounted for? (my dad's writing is hard to read)] [Deduce: Taken before Sep 9]

    Constraints on birthdate from 1810 to 1830 censuses: 1770-1774. From 1787 Loudon Co., Va., tax list, assuming that he is the male age 16-20, further constrains it to 1770-1771.

    Move from Union Co. to Bath County, Kentucky, either in 1844 (Charles F. Chrisman biography says C. was b. in 1830 and moved at age 14 with his parents to Bath Co., KY).

    However, daughter Frances Virginia stated on her wedding certificate (dated 12 Feb 1843) that she had no living parents or guardians at that time.

    Note that in 1850 Census Index, there was a Daniel Chrisman residing in Union County, Indiana. The relation is not known.

    There are two John Chrisman's in the Sullivan Co., Tennessee Tax records in the year 1796. From this, it is infered that he is a son of John Sr (and that he was born before 1775, therefore when his parents lived in Maryland).

    For extended information about proof of parentage, see "Evidence concerning the parentage of John Chrisman (c1771-c1851) who married Elizabeth Wither (c1780-c1840s)" by Lonnie Chrisman.

    20 April 1849: "John Chrisman representing the heirs of Elizabeth Chrisman" named in an intenture concerning the estate of Spencer Withers.


    Elizabeth Withers


    Father: Spencer Withers
    Mother: Esther Potts
    Birth: 1780/1784 Virginia
    Death: BEF 20 APR 1849 probably,Bath Co.,Kentucky

    m: John Chrisman (1770/1774-AFT 1850)

    on 3 SEP 1805 at German Reform Ch,Frederick,Frederick Co.,Maryland

    Children:

  • Mary Withers Chrisman (1807-AFT 1880) m. John Cunningham (8 AUG 1807-25 JUN 1868) on 22 APR 1830 at Union Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Elizabeth Susan "Lizzie" Cunningham (5 MAR 1831-9 FEB 1911), 2. William Marion Cunningham (1832/1833-MAR 1922), 3. Ann Eliza Cunningham (1834/1835-), 4. Cynthia Ann Cunningham (1836/1837-27 APR 1870), 5. John R. (W.) Cunningham (1838/1839-AFT 1870), 6. Mary G. or C. Cunningham (1841-1875), 7. James C. Cunningham (SEP 1843-), 8. Charles Franklin Cunningham (4 DEC 1847-21 SEP 1912), 9. Lucy Ann "Miranda" Cunningham (AUG 1849-).
  • Catherine Chrisman (1807/1808-ABT 1854) m. William Nicely (1807/1808-) at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. John M. Nicely (1832/1833-), 2. George W. Nicely (24 JAN 1834-11 JAN 1882), 3. Martha J. Knicely (1834/1835-), 4. William F. Knicely (1836/1837-), 5. Mary V. Knicely (1838/1839-), 6. Albert Knicely (1842/1843-), 7. Sarah K. or C. Knicely (1848/1849-).
  • Sarah Chrisman (1808/1809-) m. William Coddington (8 SEP 1806-AFT 1874) on 10 NOV 1833 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Maria Coddington (1834/1835-6 OCT 1901), 2. Mary H. Coddington (1835-), 3. Lydia Coddington (1837/1838-), 4. Amy E. Coddington (1 APR 1840-15 JAN 1915), 5. Harriett Coddington (1839-), 6. Moses Coddington (19 MAR 1841-10 MAY 1898), 7. John Coddington (1842-), 8. William T. Coddington (1843/1844-1914), 9. Ester E. Coddington (1846/1847-), 10. Emma E. Coddington (1847/1848-), 11. Charles Coddington (ABT NOV 1849-).
  • William Withers Chrisman (9 SEP 1810-) m. Ava Chenault (12 OCT 1809-27 MAR 1861) on 14 JUL 1831 at Union Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Elizabeth Ann Chrisman (17 FEB 1834-6 JAN 1915), 2. Abner Chenault Chrisman (14 JAN 1836-27 SEP 1926), 3. John Chrisman (14 JAN 1836-ABT 1836), 4. Daniel Trimbel Chrisman (26 DEC 1838-30 JUL 1891), 5. Samuel Larkin Chrisman (30 JAN 1840-1 JUL 1915), 6. William S. Chrisman (26 APR 1842-), 7. Margaret Mary Jane Chrisman (24 DEC 1843-19 JAN 1911), 8. Charles Francis Chrisman (14 JAN 1846-1848), 9. George Withers Chrisman (6 SEP 1847-ABT 1848), 10. James Monroe Chrisman (25 OCT 1849-27 JAN 1862).
  • John Chrisman (10 MAY 1812-11 DEC 1855) m. Rebecca Crouch (26 JUN 1812-30 JAN 1896) on 12 FEB 1837 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. James Chrisman (1837-), 2. John Russell Chrisman (21 MAR 1841-24 MAR 1922), 3. George W. Chrisman (14 MAR 1843-8 SEP 1927), 4. William Barton Chrisman (1845-AFT 17 JAN 1920), 5. Harriett Chrisman (1847/1848-), 6. Hannah Pauline Chrisman (17 JAN 1854-28 AUG 1926).
  • Rebecca Chrisman
  • Elizabeth Chrisman (1817/1818-AFT 1880) m. Barton W. Miller (ABT 1810/1811-) on 6 MAY 1838 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Sarah A. Miller (1852/1853-AFT 1880), 2. Nancy Miller (1844/1845-).
  • Esther Chrisman m. Abner Haydon on 4 JUL 1839 at Boone Co.,Indiana
  • Ann Maria (Meriah) Chrisman (5 MAR 1822-10 FEB 1865) m. Caleb Davis (27 SEP 1820-21 JAN 1890) on 20 MAR 1842 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. James F. Davis (22 DEC 1842-13 JAN 1905), 2. Barton W. Davis (3 FEB 1844-), 3. John Chrisman Davis (17 JUL 1845-30 JAN 1923), 4. William E. Davis (7 DEC 1846-25 MAR 1920), 5. George Cass Davis (9 AUG 1849-7 JUN 1915), 6. Oliver Marion Davis (27 NOV 1851-), 7. Jasper P. Davis (11 OCT 1852/1853-), 8. Charles Albert Davis (6 NOV 1855-23 DEC 1944), 9. Mary Catherine Davis (3 NOV 1858-21 MAR 1908), 10. Elizabeth Harriet Davis (2 JAN 1861-21 MAR 1908), 11. Leander Jefferson Davis (7 SEP 1862-28 FEB 1934).
  • Frances Virginia "Jenny" Chrisman (14 DEC 1825-19 DEC 1877) m. Samuel Porter (12 MAY 1819-29 DEC 1909) on 12 FEB 1843 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Catharine Elizabeth Porter (27 JAN 1844-16 AUG 1903), 2. Mary Ellen Porter (25 DEC 1845-17 AUG 1904), 3. Harriet H. Porter (1848-1880), 4. Oliver W. Porter (OCT 1851-17 APR 1927), 5. John Mark Porter (NOV 1853-1930), 6. Emaline Jane Porter (22 DEC 1855-1938), 7. Thomas W. Porter (MAR 1858-), 8. Maria A. Porter (19 MAR 1860-17 APR 1887), 9. Arthur William Porter (25 JAN 1862-25 DEC 1916), 10. Virginia F. "Jenny" Porter (17 APR 1864-22 MAY 1911), 11. Augusta A. Porter (10 AUG 1866-3 DEC 1869), 12. Frank Lee Porter (MAR 1868-1938).
  • Charles F. Chrisman (13 MAY 1830-5 OCT 1887) m(1). Hannah Crouch (29 NOV 1829-30 JUN 1884) on 29 APR 1852 at Boone Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Mary J. Chrisman (20 APR 1853-25 OCT 1853), 2. Horace A. Chrisman (6 OCT 1854-16 MAY 1932), 3. Charles F. Chrisman (JUL 1855-14 AUG 1860), 4. Sarah E. Chrisman (2 FEB 1858-4 AUG 1862), 5. Isaac Chrisman (30 NOV 1859-8 FEB 1866), 6. Charles F. Chrisman (ABT 1861-AFT 1920), 7. Anna Lee Chrisman (5 SEP 1863-1 FEB 1874), 8. John F. or R. Chrisman (1865-), 9. William Chrisman (27 DEC 1867-8 MAR 1872), 10. Armilda Chrisman (14 FEB 1870-12 FEB 1872).m(2). Alice D. Yates (1862-NOV 1942) on 5 MAY 1885 at Platte Co.,Missouri, children: 1. Harry Lee Chrisman (6 APR 1886-18 MAR 1892), 2. Aggy Chrisman (1887/1888-).


    William Neal


    Father: Lewis Neil
    Mother: Amelia "Millie" Cox
    Birth: 13 APR 1815 Bartholomew Co.,Indiana
    Death: 22 JUL 1907 Monument,Grant Co.,Oregon
    Burial: Monument,Grant Co.,Oregon

    m: Mahala Parker (4 JUN 1817-18 MAY 1900)

    on 8 AUG 1839 at Bartholomew Co.,Indiana

    Children:

  • Lewis Neal (26 JUN 1841-7 AUG 1902) m. Matilda Cox (11 APR 1846-31 JUL 1928) on 11 JUN 1865 at Silverton,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. Lilburn Neal (1865/1866-BEF 20 APR 1910), 2. Ira M. Neal (14 JUN 1874-5 APR 1954), 3. Lilly Neal (1880-BEF 20 APR 1910), 4. Nellie Neal (1881/1882-).
  • Julatha Neal (25 SEP 1842-JAN 1896) m. John Bligh Trask (1833/1834-) on 1855, children: 1. Emma Trask (1857-), 2. William Hooker Trask (1858-), 3. Ellen or Eliza Trask (1860-), 4. Louis (Lewis) C. Trask (1861-26 JUN 1938), 5. Horace S. Trask (1863-OCT 1948), 6. Gustavis B. Trask (22 SEP 1866-27 MAY 1934), 7. Edward Everett Trask (1866-), 8. Arthur J. Trask (1868/1870-), 9. Cornelia Trask (1869-), 10. Florence Trask (1870-), 11. John Trask (1872-).
  • Minerva J. Neal (22 NOV 1845-6 SEP 1909) m. Abner Chenault Chrisman (14 JAN 1836-27 SEP 1926) on 18 DEC 1862 at Neal Residence,near Salem,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. William Edward Chrisman (7 DEC 1864-2 OCT 1927), 2. John Charles Chrisman (12 MAY 1866-2 AUG 1938), 3. Elizabeth Mahala Chrisman (1866/1867-BEF 9 JUN 1955), 4. James Monroe Chrisman (5 AUG 1869-ABT 1958), 5. Frances Chrisman (29 DEC 1870-28 OCT 1875), 6. Elday Lewis Chrisman (23 FEB 1873-MAY 1959), 7. George Nelson Chrisman (25 OCT 1874-8 JUN 1955), 8. Ira S. Chrisman (1 FEB 1878-8 NOV 1884), 9. Milton Morgan Chrisman (-1892), 10. Infant Chrisman.
  • John Neal (25 OCT 1848-1902) m. Mary Esther Wagner (1849/1850-) , children: 1. Cora Francis Neal (21 JAN 1870-AUG 1902), 2. Orpha Gertrude Neal (3 JUN 1872-19 MAY 1935), 3. Oril Arcena Neal (2 JAN 1874-17 DEC 1940), 4. Eugene Malcolm Neal (11 JUN 1876-24 DEC 1959), 5. Mahala Catherine Neal (31 JAN 1879-12 FEB 1947), 6. Harry William Neal (6 NOV 1881-1 SEP 1944), 7. Esther Zoe Neal (2 SEP 1885-28 MAY 1976), 8. Josephine Selina Neal (21 OCT 1888-22 NOV 1950).
  • Margaret Elizabeth Neal (16 SEP 1851-22 NOV 1934) m. Jack McCulley (6 APR 1836-16 MAY 1911) on 14 MAR 1869, children: 1. William I. McCulley (1869/1870-), 2. Francis N. McCulley (1870/1871-), 3. Latha-Belle McCulley (1873/1874-), 4. Alameda McCulley (1875/1876-), 5. John McCulley (1877/1878-), 6. Alexander McCulley (1879-), 7. Thomas McCulley (-22 JUN 1945), 8. Jake McCulley, 9. Benjamin McCulley.
  • Napoleon Bonaparte Neal (30 APR 1854-19 APR 1925) m. Mary Elizabeth Munkers (29 SEP 1856-) on 19 NOV 1876, children: 1. Frederick Miles Neal (20 MAR 1878-AFT 14 NOV 1946), 2. Leo Gilbert Neal (31 JUL 1881-OCT 1941), 3. Delman Riley Neal (1883-30 MAY 1959), 4. Bessie Franklin Neal (22 MAR 1886-).
  • Angeline Neal (7 JAN 1857-30 MAY 1932) m(1). Harry Burstow (-1880) , children: 1. Zena Burstow (5 OCT 1879-), 2. Gene Moody Burstow (-FEB 1951).m(2). Joseph Putnam (1858-12 MAY 1916) on 1883, children: 1. Rosella Putnam (28 FEB 1884-20 JAN 1930), 2. Charles Frederick Putnam (31 JUL 1885-), 3. Darlene Belle Putnam (3 JUL 1888-), 4. Rosie Putnam (5 JAN 1896-SEP 1945).
    Notes:
    Biography of William Neal sights his birthdate as 13 Apr 1815.
    The Neal Family Tree lists it as 4/3/1819. The tree appears to conflict with the presumed birthdate for Daniel, making the biography date more likely. However, note that this date preceeds the marriage of Lewis Neal and Millie Cox.

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    William Neal and family moved from Bartholomeu County Indiana to Joliet, Illinois in 1842; in 1844 they moved back to Indiana, and from there to Kentucky, then to Andrew County, Missouri, in 1845; after which they came to Oregon in 1850.

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    !Census (1860) of Marion Co., Oregon:
    Neal, W., 39, M, b. Iowa (?), Farmer;
    Neal, M., 40, M (?), b.Iowa (?),
    Neal, L. 19, M, b. Missouri (?).

    !Census (1870): East of Dechutes River, Wasco Co., Oregon, enum 12 Aug 1870, p. 448, household 38, fam 36:
    Neal, William, age 57, farmer, $6300/1580, b. Indiana, father of foreign birth, cannot read or write
    --, Mahala, 54, keeping house, b. Indiana,
    --, Napoleon, 15, works on farm, b. Oregon
    --, Angeline, 13, at home, b. Oregon

    !Census (1880) Hay Stack, Grant Co., Oregon, p.25D.
    William Neal, M, 63, b. Indiana, farmer, Father born Scotland, Mother born Kentucky.
    Mahaly, wife, 65 b. IN, keeping house, parents b. KY/KY
    Lina Burston, dau., widowed, 23 OR, at home, parents b. IN/IN
    Zena Burston, gr.dau., 7 months b. OR, at home, father b. Eng, mother b. OR
    Ralph Fisk, rel=other, single, 50 KY, laborer, parents b. KY/KY
    ?? Anderson, other, 38 OR, laborer, parents b. MO/MO

    Named in probate of his half-brother John Raines, circa 1887, as William Neal, 64 years old, Gilliam Co., Or.

    !Census (1900): Neal, William, Husband, M, b.1819, 81, Mar.60 years, b. Indiana, Father b.Scotland, Mother b.Kentucky.

    !Death: Death Certificate, Oregon Health Division #4136. Almost completely blank. Info on it is: Place of Death=County of Grant, City of Monument, Full Name=Wm. Niel, Sex=M, Color=W, Age=93, Married & Widowed, Birthplace=Indiana, Occupation=Farmer, Informatnt of above info=Newspaper, Date of Death=July 22, 1907, Cause of Death=Senility. All else is blank. Certified Copy in possession of Lonnie D. Chrisman.

    Oregon Donation Land Grant #OC 348: William Neil, Marion Co; b. abt 1822 Bartholemew Co., Indiana. Arr. Ore Oct 1850; SC 9 July 1851; m. Mehala 8 Aug 1839 Bartholemew Co., Indiana. Aff: Peter Polly, Lewis Pettyjohn.


    Mahala Parker


    Father: John Parker
    Mother: Lydia Reddick
    Birth: 4 JUN 1817 Bartholomew Co.,Indiana
    Death: 18 MAY 1900
    Burial: Monument,Grant Co.,Oregon

    m: Isaac Stanley (-BEF 1840)

    Children:

  • Isaac A. Stanley (4 MAY 1837-28 JUL 1867) m. Martha Marlott (-1860/1880) , children: 1. Mary Stanley (1858/1859-), 2. Mahala Stanley (1860/1861-), 3. Eva Stanley (1863/1864-), 4. Clara Stanley (1866/1867-).

    m: William Neal (13 APR 1815-22 JUL 1907)

    on 8 AUG 1839 at Bartholomew Co.,Indiana

    Children:

  • Lewis Neal (26 JUN 1841-7 AUG 1902) m. Matilda Cox (11 APR 1846-31 JUL 1928) on 11 JUN 1865 at Silverton,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. Lilburn Neal (1865/1866-BEF 20 APR 1910), 2. Ira M. Neal (14 JUN 1874-5 APR 1954), 3. Lilly Neal (1880-BEF 20 APR 1910), 4. Nellie Neal (1881/1882-).
  • Julatha Neal (25 SEP 1842-JAN 1896) m. John Bligh Trask (1833/1834-) on 1855, children: 1. Emma Trask (1857-), 2. William Hooker Trask (1858-), 3. Ellen or Eliza Trask (1860-), 4. Louis (Lewis) C. Trask (1861-26 JUN 1938), 5. Horace S. Trask (1863-OCT 1948), 6. Gustavis B. Trask (22 SEP 1866-27 MAY 1934), 7. Edward Everett Trask (1866-), 8. Arthur J. Trask (1868/1870-), 9. Cornelia Trask (1869-), 10. Florence Trask (1870-), 11. John Trask (1872-).
  • Minerva J. Neal (22 NOV 1845-6 SEP 1909) m. Abner Chenault Chrisman (14 JAN 1836-27 SEP 1926) on 18 DEC 1862 at Neal Residence,near Salem,Marion Co.,Oregon, children: 1. William Edward Chrisman (7 DEC 1864-2 OCT 1927), 2. John Charles Chrisman (12 MAY 1866-2 AUG 1938), 3. Elizabeth Mahala Chrisman (1866/1867-BEF 9 JUN 1955), 4. James Monroe Chrisman (5 AUG 1869-ABT 1958), 5. Frances Chrisman (29 DEC 1870-28 OCT 1875), 6. Elday Lewis Chrisman (23 FEB 1873-MAY 1959), 7. George Nelson Chrisman (25 OCT 1874-8 JUN 1955), 8. Ira S. Chrisman (1 FEB 1878-8 NOV 1884), 9. Milton Morgan Chrisman (-1892), 10. Infant Chrisman.
  • John Neal (25 OCT 1848-1902) m. Mary Esther Wagner (1849/1850-) , children: 1. Cora Francis Neal (21 JAN 1870-AUG 1902), 2. Orpha Gertrude Neal (3 JUN 1872-19 MAY 1935), 3. Oril Arcena Neal (2 JAN 1874-17 DEC 1940), 4. Eugene Malcolm Neal (11 JUN 1876-24 DEC 1959), 5. Mahala Catherine Neal (31 JAN 1879-12 FEB 1947), 6. Harry William Neal (6 NOV 1881-1 SEP 1944), 7. Esther Zoe Neal (2 SEP 1885-28 MAY 1976), 8. Josephine Selina Neal (21 OCT 1888-22 NOV 1950).
  • Margaret Elizabeth Neal (16 SEP 1851-22 NOV 1934) m. Jack McCulley (6 APR 1836-16 MAY 1911) on 14 MAR 1869, children: 1. William I. McCulley (1869/1870-), 2. Francis N. McCulley (1870/1871-), 3. Latha-Belle McCulley (1873/1874-), 4. Alameda McCulley (1875/1876-), 5. John McCulley (1877/1878-), 6. Alexander McCulley (1879-), 7. Thomas McCulley (-22 JUN 1945), 8. Jake McCulley, 9. Benjamin McCulley.
  • Napoleon Bonaparte Neal (30 APR 1854-19 APR 1925) m. Mary Elizabeth Munkers (29 SEP 1856-) on 19 NOV 1876, children: 1. Frederick Miles Neal (20 MAR 1878-AFT 14 NOV 1946), 2. Leo Gilbert Neal (31 JUL 1881-OCT 1941), 3. Delman Riley Neal (1883-30 MAY 1959), 4. Bessie Franklin Neal (22 MAR 1886-).
  • Angeline Neal (7 JAN 1857-30 MAY 1932) m(1). Harry Burstow (-1880) , children: 1. Zena Burstow (5 OCT 1879-), 2. Gene Moody Burstow (-FEB 1951).m(2). Joseph Putnam (1858-12 MAY 1916) on 1883, children: 1. Rosella Putnam (28 FEB 1884-20 JAN 1930), 2. Charles Frederick Putnam (31 JUL 1885-), 3. Darlene Belle Putnam (3 JUL 1888-), 4. Rosie Putnam (5 JAN 1896-SEP 1945).
    Notes:
    The Neal Family tree records her birthdate as 6/4/1817. Another source had 19 May 1813, bu t this appeared to be in conflict with sibling Daniel K.'s birthdate, making the first more credible.

    The Neal family history claims that she was the First white child born in the state of Indiana. While she was certainly one of the earliest born in that part of Indiana, it appears that her first cousin, John Ruddick, son of William and Elizabeth (Wilson) Ruddick, was born in Browntown Twp., Jackson Co., Indiana in 1812, the year prior to her birth. There may be others as well, but this one instance does seem to refute the claim..

    Her husband, William Neal, was the second white child born in the state of Indiana. (of course, see above refutation)

    !Census (1880) Grant Co., Oregon: Mahaly Neal, F, 65, wife of William Neal, b. Indiana, Father b. Kentucky, Mother b. Kentucky.

    !Census (1900): Neal, Mahaly, wife, F, b. 1816, age 83, Mar. 60 years, b. Indiana, Father born Kentucky, Mother born Kentucky.


    Lewis Neil


    Birth: 1795/1804 Scotland 1234

    m: Amelia "Millie" Cox (1797-6 JAN 1894)

    on 20 OCT 1817 at Jackson Co.,Indiana

    Children:

  • William Neal (13 APR 1815-22 JUL 1907) m. Mahala Parker (4 JUN 1817-18 MAY 1900) on 8 AUG 1839 at Bartholomew Co.,Indiana, children: 1. Lewis Neal (26 JUN 1841-7 AUG 1902), 2. Julatha Neal (25 SEP 1842-JAN 1896), 3. Minerva J. Neal (22 NOV 1845-6 SEP 1909), 4. John Neal (25 OCT 1848-1902), 5. Margaret Elizabeth Neal (16 SEP 1851-22 NOV 1934), 6. Napoleon Bonaparte Neal (30 APR 1854-19 APR 1925), 7. Angeline Neal (7 JAN 1857-30 MAY 1932).
  • Mary Neal (8 JAN 1821-11 OCT 1888) m. John Edwards (15 NOV 1815-1875) on 1836, children: 1. Nancy Jane Edwards (-AFT 1887), 2. Pamelia Edwards, 3. Sarah Ann Edwards, 4. Emily Edwards, 5. Eliza Edwards, 6. Martha Eliza Edwards (-AFT 1887), 7. Malinda Edwards (1851/1852-), 8. Mary Alice Edwards, 9. Ellen Edwards, 10. Joseph Edwards, 11. Charles Edwards (1855/1856-AFT 1887), 12. Henry Edwards (1856/1857-AFT 1887), 13. George Edwards (1864/1865-AFT 1887).
  • Daniel Neal (15 APR 1819-6 APR 1892) m. Nancy Edwards (27 JAN 1818-2 FEB 1874) on 1836, children: 1. William Riley Neal (1838-), 2. John W. Neal (6 NOV 1841-22 FEB 1922), 3. Daniel Kimberlin Neal (1 JUL 1849-), 4. Mary Evans Neal (1842/1843-), 5. Lydia Ann Neal (ABT 1844-), 6. Catherine Neal (ABT 1846/1847-), 7. Susan Jane Neal (ABT 1852-).
    Notes:
    This Lewis Neal has often been confused with another Lewis Neill (1760-1835) of Henry Co., Ky . The other Lewis Neill was a revolutionary war veteran. Some descendants of this Lewis Neal have incorrectly used their descent to join the DAR. It has also been repeatedly stated that our Lewis Neal was much older than Amelia Cox, but the 1820 census reveals that he is not significantly older.

    His origins have yet to be identified. The most reliable clue to date is the fact that his son, William Neal, twice (in 1880 and 1900) reported on the census that his father (i.e., Lewis) was born in Scotland.

    His divorce from Amelia was finalized in 1829, but other family stories indicate that they separated around 1820. The biography of William Neal states that the only memory he had of his father was when he (William) was about 5 years old, as his father rode off on a larger-than-life horse. Again, that would be consistent with a separation of around 1820 (although a date after Mary Neal's birth seems likely).

    No records have yet been identified for him after about 1829.

    It is notable that he does not appear on the 1809 tax list of Knox Co., Kentucky, while many of my other Bartholomew Co., IN ancestors do appear on that list. However, it is likely that he was not an adult yet, and the family of Arthur Neil did live in Knox Co., Ky -- that is one possibility.

    There is an unconfirmed story that he died in an Indian War in or mustered from Jackson Co., Indiana. Date unknown.

    A quote from the Neal family history:
    In 1816, Lewis Neal married Pamelia (Millie) Cox, only daughter of Joseph and Mary Serginer Cox. (Early papers tell of the marriage of the beautiful daughter of Joseph Cox to Lewis Neal in considerable detail.)

    There is a reasonable chance that he might be the son of William Neal who appears on the 1785 Halifax Co., Virginia heads of households listing. That William Neal is adjacent to a Daniel Parker. On that listing, Wiliam Neal is listed with 8 white soles, 1 dwelling, and 0 other buildings.

    Another candidate father: On the 1810 Census of Knox Co., Kentucky, there is an Arthur Neill 21201-21010-02 [RIN=40270]. Many of his contemporaries (i.e., Rains, Cox, Parker families) were in Knox Co., Ky at that time, so perhaps there is a connection. Linda Lee of Heidelberg, Germany (email correspondence on 26 Apr 2003) is a descendant of a James Neill who married Dorcas Hopper in Knox Co., Ky in 1815, who she thinks is probably a son of this Arthur. According to her, this family (with the exception of a John Neill) had moved to the Orange/Greene Co., IN area by 1820. Another web site, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Christine-Y-Walters/GENE9-0013.html?Welcome=1051501411, identifies James Neil (b. c1792 Va) who m. 2 Mar 1815 Knox Co., KY Dorcas Hopper as the son of Arthur and Rhoda Neill and lists their children.

    Yet another candidate is a John Neill, also on the 1810 census of Knox Co., Ky, 31101-01110-00

    There is also an Albert T. Neill of New Madrid Co., Missouri, profiled in Goodspeed's History of Southeast Missouri, who was born in 1842 in Hardin Co. Ky, a son of Lewis Neill, a native of Virginia who moved to Kentucky when a child and married Latecia Torrence. [Courtesy of Linda Lee for making me aware of this biography]. More research is necessary to determine if that father could be my Lewis Neal.
    Census 1850: Hardin Co., Ky, dist 1, enum 21 Nov 1850, roll 203 p. HA-346, household 594:
    Neill, Lewis, 46 VA, farmer, $1500
    --, Letitia, 32 Ky
    --, Albert, 7 Ky
    --, Thomas, 6 Ky
    --, Sally, 4 Ky
    --, Phebe L., 1 Ky
    Also found nearby in Hardin Co., 1850, on p. HA-347, household 600:
    Neill, Phebe, 74 b. Va ("Ky" is crossed out and "Va" written)
    She is residing in the household of William Hays, 37 Ky, and Nancy Hays, 39 Ky.
    Also found on the next page in Hardin Co., HA-348 household 615, enum 28 nov 1850, is the household of Randall P. Hays, 51 or 57 KY, $4000, and Sarah 45 Ky, with various Hays children listed, but also with Gertrude Neill, 4 Ky, Randall Neill, 2 Ky, and James Neill 5/12, Ky.
    Abert T. Neill is found on the 1880 census of Big Prairie, New Madrid Co., Mo, married age 38 b. Ky, farmer, parents b. Va/Ky. Annie Neill, wife, 24 Mo (Mo/Mo), dau Ida 4 Mo, dau Nora 2 Mo, dau ___ 4 months Mo, and other Andrew McKay, farm laborer, 19 OH (Ire/Ire). Several other Neills are also in the county, including a Louis Neill, 27 Ky (par Ky/Ky) with niece Ida Neill 18 Mo (par Ky/Ky), nephew Edward Neill (5 months Mo, par Mo/Mo) and Eddie Neill, niece 10 Mo (par Ky/Ky), living in New Madrid Twp. Namesake and Ky birthplace suggest a likely relationship. I searched (by hand, without an index) and on-line compendium of images of the Douglas Co., 1860 census (at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/douglas/census/1880/), but found only these Neills:
    P.O. Falling Spring
    http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/douglas/census/1860/886.jpg
    James Neill, 68 b. Va
    Darcy, 65 Tn
    John J., 21, Mo
    Manerva, 18 Mo
    Mary A.,. 13 Mo
    Emaline, 8 Mo
    James, 7 Mo
    Daniel N, 6 Mo
    In adjacent household of Josiah Wheat is
    Tillman Neill, 19 Ind
    I am not confident that this list of census images represents the whole of Douglas Co., Mo though, since all the images seemed to be from the Falling Spring P.O. (Note that Albert T. Neill was in the Big Prairie P.O. in 1880).

    There is another candidate, Lewis Neal (b. 1790/1800) found on the 1830 census of Shelby Co., Ky, Southeastern District, roll 41 p. 231: 2M(<5), 1M(30-39), 1F(<5), 1F(5-10), 1F(20-29). The other Lewis Neal found in the 1830 census in Henry Co. has been established not to be him.
    Another candidate is a Lewis Neal b. c1797 b. Va, found on the 1850 census of Scott Co., Ky. This is probably the same one found in 1830 in Shelby Co. In 1850 he is in household of William Isbell, roll 218 p. 459 dist 2, enum 10 Aug 1850 by Mr. Paine, household 186:
    Willis Isbell, 32 Ky, Gatekeeper
    Emily --, 32 Ky
    Laurn --, F, 4 Ky
    Frances --, F, 2 Ky
    Lewis Neal, 63 Va, Wagonmaker
    David Strous, 31 Bavaria, Merchant
    Fanny --, 26 Bavaria
    Louis --, 5 Louisiana
    Gustavus --, 1 Ky

    There is another Lewis Neal b. 1819/20 Va, found in Dist 39 Being, Monroe Co., Missouri in 1850, enum 23 Nov 1850 roll 407 p. 157, household 164. Clearly too young to be my Lewis Neal, the name coincidence could still be useful in researching him. His father appears to be with him. (Note: Monroe Co. Mo is in the northeast region of the state, not near Douglas Co.)
    Lewis Neal, 30 Va, farmer
    Jane, 40 Ky
    Elizabeth, 21 Ky
    James, 19 Ky farming $800
    Emily G., 16 Ky
    Samuel, 14 Ky
    Francis M., male, 70 Ky
    Mary A., 8 Ky
    Then adjacent in household 165:
    Thomas B. Neal, 26 Ky, Farming
    Martha A., 25 Ky
    John M., 3 Ky
    William, 2 Ky

    It is also notable that a niece of Amelia Cox, Melissa Matilda Cox, dau. of James Cox and Juliatha Parker, married 11 Jun 1865 a Louis Neal. She was from Adair Co., Missouri, but her parents had just moved to Silverton, Marion Co., Oregon by that marriage date.
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    Research Note: In Nov 2001, while doing research on Mary (Neal) Edwards, Sharon Proctor discovered a deed in Doniphan Co., Kansas dated 28 Nov 1868 involving a Lewis C. Neal and Allen G. Neal. We originally hypothesized that the Lewis C. Neal of this deed might be our Lewis Neal. Consider: Daniel Neal (son of Lewis Neal) was nearby in Nemaha Co., Kansas by 1870, and Mary (Neal) Edwards (dau. of Lewis Neal) was in Doniphan Co., and Daniel later moved to Troy, Doniphan Co., Kansas. The Lewis C. Neal of the deed acquired the land in 1858. However, census records have now shown this not to be the case. I will leave these records here in these notes for future reference.

    A full transcription of this deed follows. Note the following open questions:
    * Is this our Lewis Neal? Ans: NO
    * How old is the Lewis Neal of the deed? Ans: 35 (to be our's he would need to be about 70)
    * Who is Allen G. Neal & what is the relationship? Since the land was a giveaway, the implication is that Allen G. Neal is a close relative, possibly son. Could this be a son from a second marriage after the divorce from Amelia?
    Ans: Not a son -- possibly a brother.
    * Allen is of Monroe Co., West Virginia. Why? Did Lewis have roots there? Ans: Apparently so - he was b. Va.

    Deed abstract: Dated 28 Nov 1868. Signed & authenticated in Sweet Springs, Monroe Co., West Virginia for 160 acres in Doniphan Co., Kansas, given for $1 from Lewis C. Neil of Saline Co., Missouri to Allen G. Neil of West Virginia. Filed in Doniphan Co, KS on 5 Jan 1869. Lewis C. Neal originally acquired the land from Oliver W. Cathin with a deed dated 13 May 1858, recorded in Doniphan Co., KS on 10 May 1860 in Book G pages 165-66.

    Transcription (original capitalization & spelling preserved):
    [R-46] This Deed Made this 28th day of November In the year of our Lord Eighteen Hundred and Sixty eight Between Allen G. Neil of the County of Monroe and State of West Virginia of the first and Lewis C. Neil of the County of Saline and State of Missouri of the second part. Witneseth that the party of the first for and In consideration of the sum of one dollar whom in hand paid the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged has granted and by these presents does grant to the party of the second part and his heirs and assigns forever the following described [pial] estate lying and being In the County of Doniphan and State of Kansas, Conveyed to him by Oliver W. Cathin by deed dated the 13th day of May 1858, recorded in the Clerk's and Recorder's office In the County of Doniphan and State of Kansas on the 10th day of May A.D. 1860 In record Book G at pages 165-66. to wit: The South West Quarter of section N. Seventeen (17) in Township No. three (3) South of Range No. Nineteen (19) East, Containing one hundred and Sixty acres of land more or less. In the Delaware District of land subject to sale at Kickapool leity State of Kansas. And the said party of the first part for himself and his heirs will warrant, spically [sic] from himself and his heirs the title to the above described and herein conveyed Real estate to the party of the second part. Witness the following signature and seal:
    [Transcription note: At this point there is a small box with a few partially legible words inside, something like "Nls RivStamp 50 / cancelled". Handwriting appears to be the same as the rest of deed, but it kind of looks like the box might have been added at a later time.]
    Allen G. Neil (Seal)
    I Clemens I. Campbell [Ou] Justice of the Peace for County aforesaid In the State of West Virginia, do certify that Allen G. Neil whose name is signed to the writing above, bearing date on the 28th day of November 1868, acknowledged the same before me In my township aforesaid. Given Under My hand this 28th day of November 1868,
    Clemens J. Campbell J.P.
    State of West Virginia Monroe County to wit
    I Lewis Calloway Recorder of Monroe County In the State aforesaid do hereby certify that Clemens J. Campbell whose genuine signature appears to the foregoing certificate of acknowledgement dated the 28th day of November 1868 was at such time and is now an acting Justice of the Peace for teh Township of Sweet Springs, In the County and State aforesaid duly elected and qualified as such, and that the full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice and that his certificate is In due form. Given under my hand and official seal this 30th day of November In the Eighteen hundred and Sixty Eight.
    Lewis Callaway, Recorder of Monroe County State of West Virginia (seal)
    Filed for record 5th Jany 1869 [atg] A.D.

    1870 Census Elmwood Twp., Saline Co., Missouri, Roll 804 p. 75, enum 4 Aug 1870
    Neel, Lewis C., age 37, b. Virginia, Physician, $5950, $835
    --, Sophia S., 27, b. Mo
    --, Samuel A., 9, b. Mo
    Smith, Austin P., 28, b. Va
    Mack, Jesse, black female, 29, b. Ky
    --, Relda, bf, 8, b.Mo
    --, Emaline, bf, 3, b. Mo

    1870 Census for Sweet Springs Twp., Monroe Co., West Virginia, household 228
    Neel, Allen G., 36, b. WV, married, Farmer, $7100, $1000
    --, Mary S., 26, WV, Housekeeping,
    Taylor, Samuel, 56, farmhand, b. Va

    and nearby at household 230:
    Neel, Owen, 72, WV, farmer, $7500, $2300
    --, Mary, 59, WV, housekeepr
    Leach, Abner, 37, WV, farmhand

    ----
    1850 Monroe Co., [W] Virginia census turned up these:
    25 313 320 NEEL JOHN 70 M CARPENTER 100 VA
    26 313 320 NEEL MARY K 43 F VA
    27 313 320 NEEL JOHN 38 M FARMER 700 VA
    28 313 320 NEEL ISABEL 25 F VA
    29 313 320 NEEL ELIZABETH 25 F VA
    30 313 320 NEEL MARGT 18 F VA
    31 313 320 NEEL MILINDA 16 F VA X
    32 313 320 NEEL MARTHA 14 F VA X
    33 313 320 NEEL OASER 13 M VA X
    34 313 320 NEEL VIRGINIA 9 F VA X
    35 313 320 NEEL INDINA 6 F VA

    18 318 325 NEEL THOMAS 57 M FARMER 5,000 VA
    19 318 325 NEEL MARY 53 F VA
    20 318 325 NEEL HENRY 21 M LABORER VA X
    21 318 325 NEEL WM F 20 M LABORER VA X
    22 318 325 NEEL SUSAN 16 F VA X
    Sources:
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  • [4] @S91@

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